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Friends and Money

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I have a sweet friend whom I’ve know for a long time.  We have very similar backgrounds.  We both came from low income families.  We both hoped to break the mold and move up from the economic classes we grew up in.

I went to school and became the only one of my siblings to get a college degree.  I took on a ton of debt for my degree and a lot of other stupid things.  She went $200K in debt to get a doctorate.  The great part is, she actually graduated and she’s using her degree.  She makes good money and I’m super happy for her.

I thought things were good.  She drives a luxury car and lives in a beautiful new house.  She did exactly what she set out to do.  Sure, I don’t live in luxury but I did exactly what I hoped.  I graduated from low income to middle income.  I’d like to have lovely things but I like the balance I’ve created more than I want those things.

We had a girl’s night and sat on the couch picking out what to watch on TV when a political ad popped up.  She said, “I sure hope whoever wins the election clears my student loans.  I’m so tired of paying them.”  We graduated nearly 20 years ago and I assumed she paid them off.  “Those still hanging around your neck?” I asked.  “They grow every year.  We put those last on our list of bills and they just keep adding up” she said.

She’s a dear friend, a very close friend so naturally we had a two-hour heart to heart about her spending habits.  At the end, she cried, decided to sell her home and her car, and she’ll be debt free by the end of the year.

If you believe that’s what happened, I’ve got oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.

Instead, I said, “Oh.  I’m sorry about that” and we moved on to find a show.  Money is such a tough topic with friends.  It sounds easy, just tell people what worked for us but I know she’d feel shamed if I told her, “If you’d sell that $70K depreciating asset parked in my driveway, you’d move the needle pretty quick.”  It’s a difficult conversation, even among close friends.  Here’s the deal, it’s a conversation I know I need to have.  She’s headed for a huge financial mess.  I take that back, she’s already IN a huge financial mess.  When I mentioned the student loan to my husband, he responded “I know.  Her husband is always stressed about money.  How did you not know this?!?”

Have you ever had difficult conversations about money with friends?  Would you have that conversation?  Any advice?

Halloween at Home

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Is your city going to allow trick or treaters this year? I’m not sure what our community’s plans are. I’ve been watching the paper and Facebook pages but haven’t seen any announcements. But either way it goes, we are not going to my Grandmother’s house as we have for the past 9 years. With her gone and COVID, I decided to opt out of the family gathering and stay home.

I invited all the kids to the house for food and possibly handing out candy. And I’ve been stock piling candy for the last several weeks. The money for the candy came out of our regular grocery budget. While Gymnast keeps telling me that I am buying too much, I figure if we don’t need it for Halloween, we can use it for events over the next couple of months – movie nights, junk food day, etc.

We’ve definitely enjoyed a few new things around here that I believe will become new traditions. While my parents were here, we had Pizza and Pumpkins night. The twins’ friends came down for this past weekend from Virginia to help celebrate the twins’ birthday. I’m having a great time finding fun Halloween snacks to try out. And I think the kids are excited about having some friends over for the evening.

Before you jump down my throat about having kids over…these are kids they are going to school with every day. I’m not really sure who will come, but I’ve extended the invitation. In addition, Sea Cadet’s girlfriend will be down from Virginia. So it should be a fun, memorable time.

What all this has made me realize is that it’s time to adjust my grocery budget. I haven’t adjusted it since the twins’ moved out. But in looking at my records from the last couple of months, I am not anywhere close to that number anymore. Even Gymnast has noticed the difference as I’m not counting every penny when we go shopping.