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	<title>Comments on: Recap of the 20/20 Special on Flat Broke: Begging and Borrowing in America</title>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really disappointed they painted Dave Ramsey in that light.  He really knows his stuff, and he&#039;s good at it.  He&#039;s tough and can be a sort of &quot;Dr. Phil&quot; of debt and personal finance - he won&#039;t hesitate to tell someone they&#039;re making a stupid mistake.  But you know what?  Maybe people *should* be told things like that.

It&#039;s too bad they crammed so much into one hour.  And I didn&#039;t see it, so I don&#039;t know if this was mentioned, but the Economides have made quite a bit of money from being debt-free:  http://www.homeeconomiser.com/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really disappointed they painted Dave Ramsey in that light.  He really knows his stuff, and he&#8217;s good at it.  He&#8217;s tough and can be a sort of &#8220;Dr. Phil&#8221; of debt and personal finance &#8211; he won&#8217;t hesitate to tell someone they&#8217;re making a stupid mistake.  But you know what?  Maybe people *should* be told things like that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad they crammed so much into one hour.  And I didn&#8217;t see it, so I don&#8217;t know if this was mentioned, but the Economides have made quite a bit of money from being debt-free:  <a href="http://www.homeeconomiser.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.homeeconomiser.com/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: denisse</title>
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		<dc:creator>denisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thought i would comment on your comment about bill collectors not having any rights to call folks at their place of employment. your comment isnt entirely true. they do have a legal right to call folks at work. what is illegal is calling their work after the collector has received a cease and desist letter asking that no more calls be made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thought i would comment on your comment about bill collectors not having any rights to call folks at their place of employment. your comment isnt entirely true. they do have a legal right to call folks at work. what is illegal is calling their work after the collector has received a cease and desist letter asking that no more calls be made.</p>
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		<title>By: triple-e</title>
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		<dc:creator>triple-e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen to a Dave Ramsey podcast or three before making up your mind.  I am guessing that like Karyn Bosnak, they may have pulled the most &quot;thought provoking&quot; (or just provoking) items out of the tape that they shot.  He says and does some things that i disagree with, but the 7 steps and main concepts are sound and can easily be followed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen to a Dave Ramsey podcast or three before making up your mind.  I am guessing that like Karyn Bosnak, they may have pulled the most &#8220;thought provoking&#8221; (or just provoking) items out of the tape that they shot.  He says and does some things that i disagree with, but the 7 steps and main concepts are sound and can easily be followed.</p>
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		<title>By: MOMM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MOMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the recap, we didn&#039;t watch it. Too bad more wasn&#039;t shown about Dave Ramsey, I too have really learned A LOT from him. He is actually the only financial &quot;guru&quot; (for lack of a better word) I have clicked with and feel comfortable following his way to getting out of debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recap, we didn&#8217;t watch it. Too bad more wasn&#8217;t shown about Dave Ramsey, I too have really learned A LOT from him. He is actually the only financial &#8220;guru&#8221; (for lack of a better word) I have clicked with and feel comfortable following his way to getting out of debt.</p>
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		<title>By: CreditShack.org - &#187; CreditDigest Roundup for January 14-20</title>
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		<dc:creator>CreditShack.org - &#187; CreditDigest Roundup for January 14-20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 21:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tricia @ Blogging Away Debt posted a nice summary and commentary of 20/20&#8217;s recent episode concerning debt in America. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Make Love, Not Debt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make Love, Not Debt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;20/20 - How We Stayed Home To Watch This Crap...&lt;/strong&gt;

If you&#039;re looking for a real review of the 20/20 show (read the 4 parts of it here, here, here, aaaand here) then maybe you should read Boston Gal&#039;s, or No Limit Ladies, or Blogging Away Debt, or Frugal Law......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>20/20 &#8211; How We Stayed Home To Watch This Crap&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for a real review of the 20/20 show (read the 4 parts of it here, here, here, aaaand here) then maybe you should read Boston Gal&#8217;s, or No Limit Ladies, or Blogging Away Debt, or Frugal Law&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too caught this show.  I completely agree with your review. 20/20 covered a tiny bit of a lot of different territories.  Each subject certainly rated it&#039;s own hour.

The spender family were such a shame.  Their unwillingness to live within their means and stupid financial decisions cost them their house.  What in the world were they thinking buying not one, but two timeshares, as investments for gods sake.  Even 10 minutes of research on the internet would have shown how foolish that was.  Timeshares almost always go down in value and usually are very difficult to get out of.  How could they be so stupid to part with over $100K without doing a few minutes of research?  Hopefully they will wise up in the future.

I salute the saver family!  I would have to be on hard times in order to live that disciplined a life style.  It just goes to show the power of information and planning.

I felt 20/20 did a really piss poor job of covering the debt collectors.  Certainly they showed the outrage, but it would have been great if they spent just a couple of minutes covering what legal debt collectors must do, cannot due, and how you should deal with it.  

I strongly urge anyone who may be dealing with collectors to read the Fair Credit Collection Practices Act.  It&#039;s actually a very short piece of legislation that&#039;s written in simple english that takes maybe 10 minutes to read.  It covers exactly what debt collectors are allowed to do, what they are not allowed to do, and what they are required by law to do.  An informed debtor could quickly shut down those abusive collectors by quoting the law to them, and telling them exactly what action will be taken against the collector if they continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too caught this show.  I completely agree with your review. 20/20 covered a tiny bit of a lot of different territories.  Each subject certainly rated it&#8217;s own hour.</p>
<p>The spender family were such a shame.  Their unwillingness to live within their means and stupid financial decisions cost them their house.  What in the world were they thinking buying not one, but two timeshares, as investments for gods sake.  Even 10 minutes of research on the internet would have shown how foolish that was.  Timeshares almost always go down in value and usually are very difficult to get out of.  How could they be so stupid to part with over $100K without doing a few minutes of research?  Hopefully they will wise up in the future.</p>
<p>I salute the saver family!  I would have to be on hard times in order to live that disciplined a life style.  It just goes to show the power of information and planning.</p>
<p>I felt 20/20 did a really piss poor job of covering the debt collectors.  Certainly they showed the outrage, but it would have been great if they spent just a couple of minutes covering what legal debt collectors must do, cannot due, and how you should deal with it.  </p>
<p>I strongly urge anyone who may be dealing with collectors to read the Fair Credit Collection Practices Act.  It&#8217;s actually a very short piece of legislation that&#8217;s written in simple english that takes maybe 10 minutes to read.  It covers exactly what debt collectors are allowed to do, what they are not allowed to do, and what they are required by law to do.  An informed debtor could quickly shut down those abusive collectors by quoting the law to them, and telling them exactly what action will be taken against the collector if they continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came in only on the very end of the show, but I have now watched the webcast and read related articles on ABC&#039;s website. It doesn&#039;t seem that I missed much.

As far as TV goes, I AM looking forward to Dave Ramsey&#039;s upcoming series. That one, unlike most primetime offerings, will have my attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came in only on the very end of the show, but I have now watched the webcast and read related articles on ABC&#8217;s website. It doesn&#8217;t seem that I missed much.</p>
<p>As far as TV goes, I AM looking forward to Dave Ramsey&#8217;s upcoming series. That one, unlike most primetime offerings, will have my attention.</p>
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		<title>By: tlange</title>
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		<dc:creator>tlange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, I am a collector, not for personal or consumer debt, but business debt.  We are not rude or unkind to the businesses that we call, but we get yelled at, cussed at, hung up on, etc.  I work for a large corporation and people when they purchase things from us, sign a application agreeing to pay for those items within the terms (30 days) which are clearly specified on that application.

I ask this question very hypothetically, Why would people get mad or angry at us, when:  1) They bought the products  2) They took delivery of the products and consumed them in the process of doing business ?  But yet, it happens everyday.  

I say this because people complain about prices going up, businesses have to raise prices because when people purchase items on credit and then do not pay, it costs everyone a lot of more money.  What people do when they do this, is the equivalent of going to the grocery store, filling up the cart with groceries and leaving without paying, then getting mad when someone calls expecting payment.

I agree that there are some unscrupulous debt collectors out there, they give those of us who are honest collectors a bad rap, but no one ever seems to address the fact that some businesses and consumers are at fault, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, I am a collector, not for personal or consumer debt, but business debt.  We are not rude or unkind to the businesses that we call, but we get yelled at, cussed at, hung up on, etc.  I work for a large corporation and people when they purchase things from us, sign a application agreeing to pay for those items within the terms (30 days) which are clearly specified on that application.</p>
<p>I ask this question very hypothetically, Why would people get mad or angry at us, when:  1) They bought the products  2) They took delivery of the products and consumed them in the process of doing business ?  But yet, it happens everyday.  </p>
<p>I say this because people complain about prices going up, businesses have to raise prices because when people purchase items on credit and then do not pay, it costs everyone a lot of more money.  What people do when they do this, is the equivalent of going to the grocery store, filling up the cart with groceries and leaving without paying, then getting mad when someone calls expecting payment.</p>
<p>I agree that there are some unscrupulous debt collectors out there, they give those of us who are honest collectors a bad rap, but no one ever seems to address the fact that some businesses and consumers are at fault, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the recap. I missed the show. Too bad they put a less than promising glint on Dave Ramsey. I have really learned alot from him. I would definitely recommend his site. There are some free forms and lots of good advice. It&#039;s too bad people want a change but aren&#039;t willing to change. Sometimes you &quot;have&quot; to look yourself in the mirror and say, &quot;Hey stupid that wasn&#039;t your best move, gut it up and make it right&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recap. I missed the show. Too bad they put a less than promising glint on Dave Ramsey. I have really learned alot from him. I would definitely recommend his site. There are some free forms and lots of good advice. It&#8217;s too bad people want a change but aren&#8217;t willing to change. Sometimes you &#8220;have&#8221; to look yourself in the mirror and say, &#8220;Hey stupid that wasn&#8217;t your best move, gut it up and make it right&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogging Away Debt &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Welcome New Visitors!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogging Away Debt &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Welcome New Visitors!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 07:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] About Me ~ Contact Me   A Reflective Look Back at 2006Goodbye to $13,000 of our Debt      Previous: Recap of the 20/20 Special on Flat Broke: Begging and Borrowing in America [...]</description>
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